First there was TARP, the initial bailout plan.  The government approved and distributed hundreds of billions of dollars, taxpayer monies either printed out of thin air or borrowed from other countries with a nice interest rate attached to our new and growing debt, piled onto an already enormous amount of debt that we seem so fond of building upon.  As recent history has noted, we basically wasted that money on a whole lot of nothing.  We stuck money into the hands of already rich people, who basically decided to hold onto the money for themselves.  Instead of loosening the credit markets and rebooting the economy, we added a big pile of debt that we'll be paying on for decades, despite having seen any real benefit.  So, government intervention is good?  Not in this case, but chalk the government up for a score.  Government: 1  The People: 0
Now we have TARP 2....the new stimulus package that is being hammered out into an agreeable plan between the House of Representatives and the Senate.  The whole plan is being engineered by the same guys who engineered the first one.  And like the first one, there is little to no accountability for any of the numbers.  Who gets the money?  How much do they get? What will these monies produce in the end?  And to all three questions, I'll bet less than 1/10th of 1 percent of the populace in general, if not the same percentage of those voting on it, could give you a reliable answer.  We're just set, regardless of public support, to start throwing money out at random ideas in hopes that something sticks and works.  And while the government is supposed to work for us people, it is us people who are having the wool pulled over our eyes.  The President has and does want this package passed as quickly as possible, with little to no debate, so that the money can start flowing into the hands of those the administration deems worthy.  Now Our President and many "esteemed" members of congress, mainly democrats, are convinced that we as individuals, and businesses cannot solve our problems.  Only the great and powerful U.S. Government, in all its inifinite wisdom (remember they already fleeced us for hundreds of billions once, and if your anti-war, Bush-hating people, the government was the ones behind confirming the intelligence and sending us to Iraq..pure  geniuses on both counts, eh?), is the only entity capable of solving our problems.  Nevermind the fact that some of our problems, economically speaking were forced on us, via government policy, as well as by example.  How can the government tell us how to be fiscally responsible when they are in fact the greatest creators of debt and deficit the world has ever known. In fact, the majority of the major players involved in "solving our collective problems" were partly responsible for helping create some of these problems to begin with.  Now maybe that last point can be a point of contention for some, but regardless of politics, it is those certain people of influence who helped shape policy in the past that got us to this point.  Now, don't get me wrong, I'm a firm believer in the addage "You made the mess, clean it up", but spending outrageous amounts of money (especially on quite a few programs that do nothing for the economy other than throwing money around at nonproductive measures..uh, bike trails anyone? hellooooo?)
Many people voted President Obama into office, not over John McCain, but in response to George W Bush's 8 years of office.  They called for the hope and change that Obama touted so greatly.  And yet, here is Obama, doing the exact same things we tried under Bush, hiring the exact same people who have been running around Washington for years, some longer than Obama has even lived life on this planet.  So, the change is nowhere to be seen, as of yet...other than the fact that our president has a different name than the one we had just a month ago. Oh wait, I'm mistaken..I just saw some loose change on the floor.  As for the Hope issue...well here's to hoping we as a nation, or at least our powers that be, don't royally screw us up for an indefinite and unforeseeable future.  I now plan to keep a jar of vaseline with me everytime I go to get my paycheck, because sooner or later the piper is going to want to be paid, and guess who he is gonna come to for the money..you and me, that's who.  All because our wonderful "leaders" in Washington have the most brilliant of ideas that always end up costing us money, while they attend their cocktail parties and laugh at the rest of us poor folks who think we really have any power to stick it to them.  Because afterall, its the special interest guru who's tending bar that night, and he's mixing up their drinks real special....they just gave his cause a tax break plus a few hundren million bucks.  Lucky us!
Below is a quote from President Barack Obama, made in January, followed by an open letter from some economists who have some slightly different ideas than he does.
"There is no disagreement that we need action by our government, a recovery plan that will help to jumpstart the economy."
— PRESIDENT-ELECT BARACK OBAMA, JANUARY 9 , 2009
With all due respect Mr. President, that is not true.
Notwithstanding reports that all economists are now Keynesians and that we all support a big increase in the burden of government, we do not believe that more government spending is a way to improve economic performance. More government spending by Hoover and Roosevelt did not pull the United States economy out of the Great Depression in the 1930s. More government spending did not solve Japan's "lost decade" in the 1990s. As such, it is a triumph of hope over experience to believe that more government spending will help the U.S. today. To improve the economy, policy makers should focus on reforms that remove impediments to work, saving, investment and production. Lower tax rates and a reduction in the burden of government are the best ways of using fiscal policy to boost growth.
Burton Abrams, Univ. of Delaware 
Douglas Adie, Ohio University 
Ryan Amacher, Univ. of Texas at Arlington 
J.J. Arias, Georgia College & State University 
Howard Baetjer, Jr., Towson University 
Stacie Beck, Univ. of Delaware 
Don Bellante, Univ. of South Florida 
James Bennett, George Mason University 
Bruce Benson, Florida State University 
Sanjai Bhagat, Univ. of Colorado at Boulder 
Mark Bils, Univ. of Rochester 
Alberto Bisin, New York University 
Walter Block, Loyola University New Orleans 
Cecil Bohanon, Ball State University 
Michele Boldrin, Washington University in St. Louis 
Donald Booth, Chapman University 
Michael Bordo, Rutgers University 
Samuel Bostaph, Univ. of Dallas 
Scott Bradford, Brigham Young University 
Genevieve Briand, Eastern Washington University 
George Brower, Moravian College 
James Buchanan, Nobel laureate 
Richard Burdekin, Claremont McKenna College 
Henry Butler, Northwestern University 
William Butos, Trinity College 
Peter Calcagno, College of Charleston 
Bryan Caplan, George Mason University 
Art Carden, Rhodes College 
James Cardon, Brigham Young University 
Dustin Chambers, Salisbury University 
Emily Chamlee-Wright, Beloit College 
V.V. Chari, Univ. of Minnesota 
Barry Chiswick, Univ. of Illinois at Chicago 
Lawrence Cima, John Carroll University 
J.R. Clark, Univ. of Tennessee at Chattanooga 
Gian Luca Clementi, New York University 
R. Morris Coats, Nicholls State University 
John Cochran, Metropolitan State College 
John Cochrane, Univ. of Chicago 
John Cogan, Hoover Institution, Stanford University 
John Coleman, Duke University 
Boyd Collier, Tarleton State University 
Robert Collinge, Univ. of Texas at San Antonio 
Lee Coppock, Univ. of Virginia 
Mario Crucini, Vanderbilt University 
Christopher Culp, Univ. of Chicago 
Kirby Cundiff, Northeastern State University 
Antony Davies, Duquesne University 
John Dawson, Appalachian State University 
Clarence Deitsch, Ball State University 
Arthur Diamond, Jr., Univ. of Nebraska at Omaha 
John Dobra, Univ. of Nevada, Reno 
James Dorn, Towson University 
Christopher Douglas, Univ. of Michigan, Flint 
Floyd Duncan, Virginia Military Institute 
Francis Egan, Trinity College 
John Egger, Towson University 
Kenneth Elzinga, Univ. of Virginia 
Paul Evans, Ohio State University 
Eugene Fama, Univ. of Chicago 
W. Ken Farr, Georgia College & State University 
Hartmut Fischer, Univ. of San Francisco 
Fred Foldvary, Santa Clara University 
Murray Frank, Univ. of Minnesota 
Peter Frank, Wingate University 
Timothy Fuerst, Bowling Green State University 
B. Delworth Gardner, Brigham Young University 
John Garen, Univ. of Kentucky 
Rick Geddes, Cornell University 
Aaron Gellman, Northwestern University 
William Gerdes, Clarke College 
Michael Gibbs, Univ. of Chicago 
Stephan Gohmann, Univ. of Louisville 
Rodolfo Gonzalez, San Jose State University 
Richard Gordon, Penn State University 
Peter Gordon, Univ. of Southern California 
Ernie Goss, Creighton University 
Paul Gregory, Univ. of Houston 
Earl Grinols, Baylor University 
Daniel Gropper, Auburn University 
R.W. Hafer, Southern Illinois 
University, Edwardsville 
Arthur Hall, Univ. of Kansas 
Steve Hanke, Johns Hopkins 
Stephen Happel, Arizona State University 
Frank Hefner, College of Charleston 
Ronald Heiner, George Mason University 
David Henderson, Hoover Institution, Stanford University 
Robert Herren, North Dakota State University 
Gailen Hite, Columbia University 
Steven Horwitz, St. Lawrence University 
John Howe, Univ. of Missouri, Columbia 
Jeffrey Hummel, San Jose State University 
Bruce Hutchinson, Univ. of Tennessee at Chattanooga 
Brian Jacobsen, Wisconsin Lutheran College 
Jason Johnston, Univ. of Pennsylvania 
Boyan Jovanovic, New York University 
Jonathan Karpoff, Univ. of Washington 
Barry Keating, Univ. of Notre Dame 
Naveen Khanna, Michigan State University 
Nicholas Kiefer, Cornell University 
Daniel Klein, George Mason University 
Paul Koch, Univ. of Kansas 
Narayana Kocherlakota, Univ. of Minnesota 
Marek Kolar, Delta College 
Roger Koppl, Fairleigh Dickinson University 
Kishore Kulkarni, Metropolitan State College of Denver 
Deepak Lal, UCLA 
George Langelett, South Dakota State University 
James Larriviere, Spring Hill College 
Robert Lawson, Auburn University 
John Levendis, Loyola University New Orleans 
David Levine, Washington University in St. Louis 
Peter Lewin, Univ. of Texas at Dallas 
Dean Lillard, Cornell University 
Zheng Liu, Emory University 
Alan Lockard, Binghampton University 
Edward Lopez, San Jose State University 
John Lunn, Hope College 
Glenn MacDonald, Washington 
University in St. Louis 
Michael Marlow, California 
Polytechnic State University 
Deryl Martin, Tennessee Tech University 
Dale Matcheck, Northwood University 
Deirdre McCloskey, Univ. of Illinois, Chicago 
John McDermott, Univ. of South Carolina 
Joseph McGarrity, Univ. of Central Arkansas 
Roger Meiners, Univ. of Texas at Arlington 
Allan Meltzer, Carnegie Mellon University 
John Merrifield, Univ. of Texas at San Antonio 
James Miller III, George Mason University 
Jeffrey Miron, Harvard University 
Thomas Moeller, Texas Christian University 
John Moorhouse, Wake Forest University 
Andrea Moro, Vanderbilt University 
Andrew Morriss, Univ. of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign 
Michael Munger, Duke University 
Kevin Murphy, Univ. of Southern California 
Richard Muth, Emory University 
Charles Nelson, Univ. of Washington 
Seth Norton, Wheaton College 
Lee Ohanian, Univ. of California, Los Angeles 
Lydia Ortega, San Jose State University 
Evan Osborne, Wright State University 
Randall Parker, East Carolina University 
Donald Parsons, George Washington University 
Sam Peltzman, Univ. of Chicago 
Mark Perry, Univ. of Michigan, Flint 
Christopher Phelan, Univ. of Minnesota 
Gordon Phillips, Univ. of Maryland 
Michael Pippenger, Univ. of Alaska, Fairbanks 
Tomasz Piskorski, Columbia University 
Brennan Platt, Brigham Young University 
Joseph Pomykala, Towson University 
William Poole, Univ. of Delaware 
Barry Poulson, Univ. of Colorado at Boulder 
Benjamin Powell, Suffolk University 
Edward Prescott, Nobel laureate 
Gary Quinlivan, Saint Vincent College 
Reza Ramazani, Saint Michael's College 
Adriano Rampini, Duke University 
Eric Rasmusen, Indiana University 
Mario Rizzo, New York University 
Richard Roll, Univ. of California, Los Angeles 
Robert Rossana, Wayne State University 
James Roumasset, Univ. of Hawaii at Manoa 
John Rowe, Univ. of South Florida 
Charles Rowley, George Mason University 
Juan Rubio-Ramirez, Duke University 
Roy Ruffin, Univ. of Houston 
Kevin Salyer, Univ. of California, Davis 
Pavel Savor, Univ. of Pennsylvania 
Ronald Schmidt, Univ. of Rochester 
Carlos Seiglie, Rutgers University 
William Shughart II, Univ. of Mississippi 
Charles Skipton, Univ. of Tampa 
James Smith, Western Carolina University 
Vernon Smith, Nobel laureate 
Lawrence Southwick, Jr., Univ. at Buffalo 
Dean Stansel, Florida Gulf Coast University 
Houston Stokes, Univ. of Illinois at Chicago 
Brian Strow, Western Kentucky University 
Shirley Svorny, California State 
University, Northridge 
John Tatom, Indiana State University 
Wade Thomas, State University of New York at Oneonta 
Henry Thompson, Auburn University 
Alex Tokarev, The King's College 
Edward Tower, Duke University 
Leo Troy, Rutgers University 
David Tuerck, Suffolk University 
Charlotte Twight, Boise State University 
Kamal Upadhyaya, Univ. of New Haven 
Charles Upton, Kent State University 
T. Norman Van Cott, Ball State University 
Richard Vedder, Ohio University 
Richard Wagner, George Mason University 
Douglas M. Walker, College of Charleston 
Douglas O. Walker, Regent University 
Christopher Westley, Jacksonville State University 
Lawrence White, Univ. of Missouri at St. Louis 
Walter Williams, George Mason University 
Doug Wills, Univ. of Washington Tacoma 
Dennis Wilson, Western Kentucky University 
Gary Wolfram, Hillsdale College 
Huizhong Zhou, Western Michigan University 
Additional economists who have signed the statement
Lee Adkins, Oklahoma State University 
William Albrecht, Univ. of Iowa 
Donald Alexander, Western Michigan University 
Geoffrey Andron, Austin Community College 
Nathan Ashby, Univ. of Texas at El Paso 
George Averitt, Purdue North Central University 
Charles Baird, California State University, East Bay 
Timothy Bastian, Creighton University 
John Bethune, Barton College 
Robert Bise, Orange Coast College 
Karl Borden, University of Nebraska 
Donald Boudreaux, George Mason University 
Ivan Brick, Rutgers University 
Phil Bryson, Brigham Young University 
Richard Burkhauser, Cornell University 
Edwin Burton, Univ. of Virginia 
Jim Butkiewicz, Univ. of Delaware 
Richard Cebula, Armstrong Atlantic State University 
Don Chance, Louisiana State University 
Robert Chatfield, Univ. of Nevada, Las Vegas 
Lloyd Cohen, George Mason University 
Peter Colwell, Univ. of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign 
Michael Connolly, Univ. of Miami 
Jim Couch, Univ. of North Alabama 
Eleanor Craig, Univ. of Delaware 
Michael Daniels, Columbus State University 
A. Edward Day, Univ. of Texas at Dallas 
Stephen Dempsey, Univ. of Vermont 
Allan DeSerpa, Arizona State University 
William Dewald, Ohio State University 
Jeff Dorfman, Univ. of Georgia 
Lanny Ebenstein, Univ. of California, Santa Barbara 
Michael Erickson, The College of Idaho 
Jack Estill, San Jose State University 
Dorla Evans, Univ. of Alabama in Huntsville 
Frank Falero, California State University, Bakersfield 
Daniel Feenberg, National Bureau of Economic Research 
Eric Fisher, California Polytechnic State University 
Arthur Fleisher, Metropolitan State College of Denver 
William Ford, Middle Tennessee State University 
Ralph Frasca, Univ. of Dayton 
Joseph Giacalone, St. John's University 
Adam Gifford, California State Unviersity, Northridge 
Otis Gilley, Louisiana Tech University 
J. Edward Graham, University of North Carolina at Wilmington 
Richard Grant, Lipscomb University 
Gauri-Shankar Guha, Arkansas State University 
Darren Gulla, Univ. of Kentucky 
Dennis Halcoussis, California State University, Northridge 
Richard Hart, Miami University 
James Hartley, Mount Holyoke College 
Thomas Hazlett, George Mason University 
Scott Hein, Texas Tech University 
Bradley Hobbs, Florida Gulf Coast University 
John Hoehn, Michigan State University 
Daniel Houser, George Mason University 
Thomas Howard, University of Denver 
Chris Hughen, Univ. of Denver 
Marcus Ingram, Univ. of Tampa 
Joseph Jadlow, Oklahoma State University 
Sherry Jarrell, Wake Forest University 
Carrie Kerekes, Florida Gulf Coast University 
Robert Krol, California State University, Northridge 
James Kurre, Penn State Erie 
Tom Lehman, Indiana Wesleyan University 
W. Cris Lewis, Utah State University 
Stan Liebowitz, Univ. of Texas at Dallas 
Anthony Losasso, Univ. of Illinois at Chicago 
John Lott, Jr., Univ. of Maryland 
Keith Malone, Univ. of North Alabama 
Henry Manne, George Mason University 
Richard Marcus, Univ. of Wisconsin-Milwaukee 
Timothy Mathews, Kennesaw State University 
John Matsusaka, Univ. of Southern California 
Thomas Mayor, Univ. of Houston 
W. Douglas McMillin, Louisiana State University 
Mario Miranda, The Ohio State University 
Ed Miseta, Penn State Erie 
James Moncur, Univ. of Hawaii at Manoa 
Charles Moss, Univ. of Florida 
Tim Muris, George Mason University 
John Murray, Univ. of Toledo 
David Mustard, Univ. of Georgia 
Steven Myers, Univ. of Akron 
Dhananjay Nanda, University of Miami 
Stephen Parente, Univ. of Minnesota 
Allen Parkman, Univ. of New Mexico 
Douglas Patterson, Virginia Polytechnic Institute and University 
Timothy Perri, Appalachian State University 
Mark Pingle, Univ. of Nevada, Reno 
Ivan Pongracic, Hillsdale College 
Robert Prati, East Carolina University 
Richard Rawlins, Missouri Southern State University 
Thomas Rhee, California State University, Long Beach 
Christine Ries, Georgia Institute of Technology 
Nancy Roberts, Arizona State University 
Larry Ross, Univ. of Alaska Anchorage 
Timothy Roth, Univ. of Texas at El Paso 
Atulya Sarin, Santa Clara University 
Thomas Saving, Texas A&M University 
Eric Schansberg, Indiana University Southeast 
John Seater, North Carolina University 
Alan Shapiro, Univ. of Southern California 
Thomas Simmons, Greenfield Community College 
Frank Spreng, McKendree University 
Judith Staley Brenneke, John Carroll University 
John E. Stapleford, Eastern University 
Courtenay Stone, Ball State University 
Avanidhar Subrahmanyam, UCLA 
Scott Sumner, Bentley University 
Clifford Thies, Shenandoah University 
William Trumbull, West Virginia University 
A. Sinan Unur, Cornell University 
Randall Valentine, Georgia Southwestern State University 
Gustavo Ventura, Univ. of Iowa 
Marc Weidenmier, Claremont McKenna College 
Robert Whaples, Wake Forest University 
Gene Wunder, Washburn University 
John Zdanowicz, Florida International University 
Jerry Zimmerman, Univ. of Rochester 
Joseph Zoric, Franciscan University of Steubenville
4 comments:
Are you saying this list represents people who disagree with President Obama's statement about all economists agreeing with his stance?
Shirley,
Thanks for stopping by. And no, if you note the introduction to the letter following the highlighted quote from Obama, all these economists DISagree with Obama's stance, in essence showing that there is disagreement on the idea that we need action by our government.
This line of thinking put out there by Obama through that statement is akin to the leftist ideal of "consensus" on global warming which was so highly popularized by the media, while ignoring the 32,000 signatory scientists who disagreed with that science.
This is quite interesting. What is the source of this letter and this list? May I use it on my blog?
Shirley,
I pulled it off Glenn Beck's page that he provided in his daily email newsletter....and I'm sure he'd LOVE for you to use it and spread the word!
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